Fleming successfully
got amended H.R.
2397 to exclude this concept from the defense appropriation bill for the
upcoming fiscal year. During debate, he pointed out the completely oxymoronic
concept involved, as chaplains are there to provide to offer prayer, spiritual
counseling, and religious instruction. But if a member of the armed services
declares himself “nonreligious,” which assumes agnosticism or atheism, how can
prayer happen, what spirit is there to counsel about, and where’s the
instruction to be given?
Dredging
up similar arguments as had been rejected in committee last month,
supporters said this would give an outlet to such members for life counseling.
But chaplains are presumed to counsel on the basis of some kind of religious
faith in a divine presence, so that is irrelevant in these cases. For those
with no religious life at all, a counselor who assistance would be based upon
concepts of the secular world would be appropriate and are available.
And the idea also directly contradicts the very oaths
by which members of the military take at enlistment or commissioning, both of
which end in the sentence “So help me God.” While polytheist members may expand
the concept of “God” to fit their views, nonbelievers may discount that portion
of their oath as an appeal to a fiction, yet the military with the presence of
the phrase certainly takes it seriously. So it makes no sense in a procedural
way to say there can be nonreligious spiritual guides when the institution
itself ordains that all its members attest to belief in a spiritual being(s)/presence
of some kind. To be consistent, it would first have to remove from the oaths
that phrase before adding in “chaplains” who guide without any reference to a
spiritual force.
Unfortunately, it’s all part of Obama and Democrats trying to steer the
military away from being an organization optimally able to kill and destroy in
the furtherance of the nation’s interests/security and instead using it as a
stamp to mold society into their flawed image. With allowing open homosexual
behavior in the ranks, this detracts
from effectiveness. Fleming himself already has pushed back against illegal
same-sex marriage substitutes using military facilities. And another recent
presidential order to allow women in all combat positions will weaken fighting
capability not just because of morale issues, but also because few if any women
can meet the same physical demands even the weakest men must possess in combat
duty, and already
politicians are talking of making standards differential. Worst of all, amid
reports of a growing hostility to religion in the military, it has the military
legitimize certain protected forms of claimed religious practice by its members
by calling acts of violence on that basis not related to terror despite
the testimony of the defendant.
3 comments:
Wow, I certainly hope that I can shoe-horn a post on your extremely “busy” blog-site.
Once again, Rep. Fleming is creating “issues” to launch windmill assaults upon in order to pander to his ovine constituency. (see “transport of weapons aboard AMTRAK”). The “dire need” to preclude the option of non-religious chaplains in the military is laughable. To iterate that chaplains MUST serve some sort of faith-based function is blatantly incorrect. Any chaplain, military or otherwise, would require no inquiry into a person’s personal beliefs in order to be effective. Fleming’s apparent contention that there are no atheists, agnostics, or otherwise reality-based members in the armed forces is, at best short-sighted, and at worst, borders on proselytism.
During my career in the military, I interacted with a number of chaplains; both for personal reasons, as well as to provide counseling to members of my assigned unit that were attempting to cope with their own issues. I have always found these chaplains to be approachable, unbiased listeners with no penchant or tendency to preach the scriptures, gospel, commandments, or whatever other fairy-tales one might expect from a more traditional clergy member. In all of my experiences, these chaplains offered guidance akin to what a qualified guidance counselor, licensed therapist, or psychologist might provide in the civilian community.
But, as with everything else for which John Fleming cherry-picks to fly his flag, I can’t say that I’m surprised.
Fleming should've run for Senate instead of that fake Chicago Liberal Democrat Bill Cassidy
You have no idea how many Louisiana Democrats in Northwest Louisiana were hoping for that, too. Then we would have gotten rid of him from Congress altogether.
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